A beautiful sunny day to wake up to and I am going on a long walk to celebrate it;=)
I read in our biggest evening paper just now that scientists have found out in studies that cheating men, such as Tiger Woods, have a lower IQ than non-cheating men. This due to the fact that men throughout history have been slightly polygamic, but that this behaviour are no longer accepted today. Therefore, smarter men have accepted the changes and are faithful to their spouses.
" The theory is that the smarter a man is, the higher he values sexual faithfulness and wont cheat, Kanazawa says".
And this theory has nothing to do with women, cause we have never been accepted to cheat through history.
Well, this is very interesting;=) So the men I and maybe some of you have met in life who are "cheaters", would be less smart...what do you all think? Interesting subject... Let me know;=)
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Good Morning Anette,
ReplyDeletewell, I asume my father to be quite intelligent but he cheated my mother several times (-well, he was caught...). I think that if a man wants to be a really good cheater he needs some well planned strategies for not being caught and this needs at least some kind of intelligence. In fact I think that emotional-matters have nothing to do with the intelligence of people. In our emotion we are all more or less children.
Well - I tell you this as a love-sick lovelorn (in the worst stadium right now after months...- and I am already over 30!!). So my words might not weight that high today.
Have a good time!
hugs,
Lisa
Hello dear Nettie , how are you =)
ReplyDeleteI know that some man in other countries are polygamic , and that's sick for me ...
And yeah..I agree that they have lower IQ...
And a cheater...does not deserve my heart...
I am still a young girl and I didn't have a boyfriend .
Have a nice day
Love
Ena
Ha, that's quite a debatable point he makes. To some extent, I agree with him: my experience with some friends who are well known cheaters is that they seem pretty dumber than the average guy. It may have something to do with their inability to control their instincts, maybe. I mean, I've found myself in the position to cheat, but I have not done it, because I truly respected the girl I was with at the time and I would have never forgiven myself if I had made her suffer.
ReplyDeleteHowever, does this make me a smarter person? Or does it simply make me a person who cares for the people he loves?
I'm not really sure being faithful is about being smart: I think it's just about NOT being assholes :)
Also, I don't really get the difference between a man and a women in this context: why would cheating make a man "stupid", but not a woman? I think the logical consequence should be the same regardless of the gender.
Long story short, this study leaves me a bit baffled. The guy who made it got famous because in another study he says that beautiful people have more female children, and obviously he was proven wrong shortly after. So... I really don't know, but I'm not sure I agree with him :)
What do you think about this Anette? Do you agree with this study? :)
Hey anette,
ReplyDeleteDef. an interesting subject.
I do not really think its an IQ based thing.
I think its more how trustworthy a person is. Trust is really big on me, i have a girlfriend i've never cheated on, its not even coming in to my mind becouse i think, if you found the person you love and really want to share your life with... it shouldn't even come to a mans mind to cheat on your girl. But hey thats just me. Prehaps there's a scientific explaination for it. hell i dunno but i really think that if you've found "the one" thats no option.
What do you think about that anette?
Have a really nice day and enjoy your walk :)
All the best,
Marijn
Hi Anette,
ReplyDeleteInteresting post. Some of my past boyfriends were right losers and definitely of a very low IQ, so I guess there is something in this. I'm not saying all men are like that, though.
Enjoy the day!
Marie
Hej Anette
ReplyDeleteNice to know you have sun too. :) I had a pretty bad night on my own (nightmares, as usual), but seeing and feeling the sun made the morning better...
Hope you will enjoy your walk. :)
About men being cheaters if they're not too smart, i don't know what to think. But i could tell you that my father was a very intelligent man, and quite a cheater. He had his high school degree without working (and with a very good result), had a doctorate in history (and then fucked is career, but it's another history). And he cheated my mother when he was still married, and divorced in a very nasty way. Incidentally, he also talked in favor of my rapist some years ago (and it was of course lies).....
*hugs*
Steff
I guess that people (not just men!!!) who cheat have at least a lower EQ. They are looking for the nice and exciting "falling in love"-feeling and forget that in their relationship they may find something deeper and longer lasting. Or they are not brave enough to tell their partner the truth, whether it is that they are not happy in their relationship (which can be changed if you really want to!) or that they want to leave (sometimes leaving is the only solution, sad but true).
ReplyDeleteI don't know why so many people don't accept that for a working relationship you have to work. Every day. You have to give up a part of yourself and of course your partner has to give up a part of him/herself as well. This sounds like sacrifice, but what you get in exchange is so much more than what an affair can give you.
Just stop asking what the partner should do to make you happy, start thinking of what you can do to make him/her happy. As long as both sides think like this, well, you got something that's really worth fighting and working for.
Hi Anette, unfortunately i've met men in my life, they wanted only determined thing, i said no and they disappeared. Theese experiences hurts me but i've learned a lot and fortunately i was cleverer than their. What about you? i'm so happy to tell my experiences to you... thanks for that! Have a nice day! Big hugs
ReplyDeleteI think cheaters would definitely have less logic based intelligence than other men: logically, if you love someone and you want them to stay with you, then you shouldn't cheat on them.
ReplyDeleteAlso that would explain why the theory would not work with women: women are more motivated (in general) by emotional intelligence, rather than logic.
I'm glad the sun is shining for you, have a great day!
The man are able to be cheat, with their intelligence they cheat you in a way that even you know it. I've never had theese kind of things, only in a love story.
ReplyDeleteMaybe smarter men just don't get caught, so you don't know that they are cheating?
ReplyDeleteDear Anette,
ReplyDeletethis is a very interesting subject indeed.
I think that I agree with them.
A lot of men, when there are problems in their relationship or marriage, they think that cheating on their partners is the solution for them.
They don't seem to think about the consequences their behaviour could have, because, if they are with two or more women then they will end up lying more and more and those lies will be discovered sooner or later and it will be worst for them. When the truth comes to the light, everyone involved will be hurt, a family can be destroyed and he will be considered the betrayer. All this trouble they get themselves into doesn't seem as a great proof of intelligence.
I thinnk that an intelligent man would think about it before doing it.
He would try to solve the problem by talking it over with his partner.
If nothing can be done to change the situation they break up, they get divorced...and like this they don't involve other people and don't make things even more difficult for themselves!
Have a lovely, sunny spring day!
I am also soon going outside in the sun!
Love,
Herta
haha, that's funny. i don't think to be a chater and iq hang together. better with eq.
ReplyDeletethose scientists have found a super project to explore again... sorry, but i can't accept these kinds of studies. i think, it's just wasting time...
Oh that made me feel so much better. I've been cheated on and at least now everytime I see him I can think that is was just stupid..literally :)
ReplyDeleteJeg tror det har noe med IQ å gjøre, siden menn som er smarte og kan bruke hjernen, klarer å tenke seg til at utroskap faktisk er en dum ting! Hadde alle brukt hjernen, hadde det ikke vært mye utroskap, tror jeg da.
ReplyDeleteI personally hate people who are not faithful to the people who rely on it.
ReplyDeleteAs you know my father betrayed my mother when I was very young with a girl who was the age of my sister at the time (21 years). I do not think these people should be treated as patients because they are not. They are idiots who can not show respect to their partners and children. For me there is no acceptable excuse for those who make a mess like this, no matter if a man or a woman, because some women cheat much also.
So I agree with this study. Really who does such idiocy like this, should have an IQ of an insect. ;-)
Hugs =)
Interesting subject Anette... My rational side doesn't think it is natural to stay with one person 'forever' however saying that, my heart hopes that my head is wrong and I would like nothing more than to think there is just one person meant for each of us - it is a lovely thought but in reality I think the thing that stops people cheating is purely their sense of morality - if personal morals are strong then whatever the temptation, it will be resisted. I guess it all comes down to respect - if a man values his wife/girlfriend and respects her and respects himself he will go against nature and won't cheat - if there is a lack of self respect and respect of others, then he will cheat - so I guess intelligence does come into it - possibly willpower and self belief go hand in hand with intelligence... who knows. Weakness makes people of either sex cheat so perhaps the lesson to be learnt is to fall in love with a strong character! But when all said and done - if someone wants to cheat no one can stop them - we can alter a lot of things but none of us can make someone love us. We just have to trust and enjoy however long we have with that person - not be jealous or suspicious. But then what do I know - confirmed single girl and I like it that way. (I think the dream is better than the reality where love is concerned :)
ReplyDeleteI've read about it on newspapers here(Brazil) too, strange how news run, innit?
ReplyDeleteI think it ain't about intelligence itself but also about values. You behave the way you think you should, and I definitely disagree with this idea. Mayve I'm wrong, which does't make me less faithfull either.
Hi Anette,
ReplyDeleteWhen in Rome do as the Romans. Or is it?
On the subject of polygamic, better known as polygamy the practice of having more than one spouse at a time.
Normally though out history it was basically a practice confined to the wealthy(Royalty, Chiefs, and Nobles) men who could afford the support of multiple marriages and their children. As it was with the Egyptians, Teutons, Irish and to some extent still is. It was even a practice taken on by two Christian sects that I know of, the Anabaptists of Munster and the Mormans of America, as to why they claim it was the "norm" in the Old Testament. Thou shall not covet thy neighbors WIVES,lol:)
Polygamic also includes polandry which is one wife and several husbands it was a very very rare form of marriage of which not to much is known about and was expected only to maintain a family heritage so to speak, when and where it was important to the survival of culture.
As for cheating.....when commited to a monogamous relationship, cheating has been to many a great man's down fall through out history....it could be that we are learning from the mistake's of others which would conclude a rise of intellect. BEWARE the adulteress kind of thing. A wise man knows that maybe some things about himself could be deemed irreplaceable...so WHY take the chance? Right? It
could equal "values" more. Also marriages for the wrong reason(s) or rushed into and finding one's self unhappy and trying to compensate for that unhappiness might lead you down a path of unfaithfulness. It's getting difficult at best in the real world in real time to make proper decisions concerning as to who and what for do I want this monogamous relationship. A lack of foresight.
As for myself I'm not perfect, never claimed to be,never plan to be. I'm human and oh well I make mistakes.LIVE and LEARN to make fewer of them.
Enjoy
lots of love,
Gary
This is quite an interesting theory. And it's a coincidence, but we actually talked at some Health Education class last week, about the fact that men are prone to cheating, while women are not. Apparently, there are even biological causes for it. The main difference between men and women in the perpetuation of the species is that the woman needs to invest time, care and her own body as a "home" for the new human being to be born, while men only invest number and probability (sounds kinda weird, but this is exactly how my teacher put it). So men's main interest is to preserve their genetic data as much as they can and the only way they can do it is by, eh, "seeding" the biggest number of "sources" possible. And apparently it's a very anatomical thing, since even men who DON'T want kids, they still have this subconscious thing to have as many partners as possible.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, of course it mainly depends on someone's education and seriousness and how deep his feelings are, nowadays. We don't live in the primitive ages anymore, when people's biggest concern was gaining strength and resistance by increasing the number of the individuals in it. Even though the genetic information is still "inserted" in the male population of the earth, I think they can control it, if they truly want to.
So, is the point that non-cheating men are smarter than cheating men because they (non-cheating men) are more open to human evolution and value the sexual faithfulness?
ReplyDeleteThat's pretty interesting. But I think IQ is very relative. There must be other factors that he didn't associate with the IQ study like curiosity, grief, desire for risks and sexual impuse that makes a man cheat, and these doesn't mean that a man has a lower IQ than one who not cheats.
I agree that men should walk upon new ideas and be able to develop.
Oh, I'm glad to hear to are having a sunny day again! Warm hugs to you. :)
Hey Dear!
ReplyDeleteI hope you feel great today (like i do)
saw my Silvia again today. sO there are all those flying hearts arround me :)
As far for this cheating thing.
Yes i met persons or so called girlfriends wich where slightly tainted by this cheating colour. I was cheated two times. one with a guy (whos that what you can call a typical idiotic nazi. a guy with a ugly racist worldview). so become a cheating victim is not nice at all, but to be held for dumb and being cheated with an idiot like that hurted even more.
So, the second time this happend..this was mabye the deepest hole i ever fell in. Cause this time (it was a other girlfriend) it was a good friend of mine, who started up something with my girlfirend.
i needed a long long time to get over with this. cause at this moment i not only lost my girlfriend, i lost a (at least i thought) good friend.
I need to say its not understandable for me to cheat a person i love.
See, when i love a person. i want her to be fine, to be happy and healthy, and i want to make her life much more brighter. i want to see her laughing, smiling and happy within every moment we are together.
When i see thos eeyes shining in happieness!
Is there anything better in life?
No. nothing is better.
So?! how on earth could i do this to a person i love?! Never! This would mean that i ripp her heart out. And i cant! cause Love is a wonder the one and only true warmth in this world. and we should all be thankful for this warmth.
I never cheated anybody. and i never will. cause i know how it is to be cheated.
But hey! thank you for sharing this interresting post with us :)
I apologize for bore you with my writing.
have a wonderful day :)
be happy!
With Love and Respect
yours ChRis^^
I'd like to keep IQ and cheating apart :D But then again, if a man cheats how smart can he be? I mean, if he loves someone, he should be smart enough not to cheat.
ReplyDeleteI really can't understand cheating! I have been in a relationship where I felt that there is no love from my side towards the end. So I didn't love him, but I still didn't cheat him. It never even crossed my mind!
I have a male friend whose girlfriend just cheated on him. The cheating was there for 3 months when my friend found out the truth. His girlfriend didn't explain anything why she cheated him. It was really tough time for my friend. Well, now they are split.
Hej there,
ReplyDeleteit is a really deep and old theme and a really interesting to see.
Well, I think that the topic cheating and polygamic is a really old story in mankind. I think it started already there from the beginning of the history of ours all. And it kept going on and on till those days.
If I think about that polygamic are even accepted in some cultures is still allowed and to see in such evolved coutries.
And I guess that you can realise not only at the IQ but even at the demeanors what kind of man can or could cheat at a person.Mostly if I know one who are able for it's like
I can smell it against the wind. It's not like kinda mistrust I would call it kinda experience even I am still young.
And if there the IQ is on a lower level I can mostly just agree cause my older bro did that at his I guess now ex and always conjured that he would never do such things as we all met but with time he has embroiled himself to testify in various and so step by step he put one's foot in one's mouth till the whole facade broke down. and sure his actings revealed him too. and of course as I said even the example with IQ in that I had by myself.
I think sometimes some kind of people are just staying in a kind of puberty
Jo
I don't agree with the IQ relevance. Its also been known throughout history that powerful men have always had mistresses and despite the fact that not all powerful men were of high intelligence, most of them were to get to the position they were. Bill Clinton as an example is a brilliant man, yet he cheated on his wife once for what we know but surely more. Furthermore, it could be linked to lower emotional intelligence, as very few of us are intelligent in all areas.
ReplyDeleteMy father cheated on my mother many many times, and he's a very intelligent man, he's a maxilofacial surgeon who graduated the first in his class out of 200 other students. So while he may have a high intelligence in many ways, his emotional intelligence may not be at its height.
Furthermore, lets not forget the power of testoterone and alcohol :)
And... lets not forget that while we are women, we're not innocent and some of us make life so unbearable for some men that we push them to cheat, as men can make life unbearable for us that we seek somebody elsewhere.
Hmmm... I don't really know what to think of this result. I think that it's stupid to do and that they'll know the concequences for sure, so in that way it's not that smart indeed. But I also think that it has more to do with one's personality and the relationship that he's in. If there's a lot of tension they'll be quicker to cheat then when everything is relaxed (/and open)
ReplyDeleteBut yeah, I don't really know about it I guess, since I haven't even been in love yet x'D
'Anouk
Hi Anette,
ReplyDeleteI find it funny, but I don't believe in it. Certainly because I know the IQ test, and I don't see the link between cheanting men and IQ... And of course, IQ has not been created for this kind of studies, and the IQ is a test, not the reality about our intelligence. Because what is the intellect ? A capacity, or some knowledges ?
Have a nice day !
Det där låter faktiskt otroligt intressant! Och till stora delar också troligt. Det kulturella arvet är något jag ibland tror att man underskattar och kan mycket väl påverka vårt undermedvetna. Och som många vet är det oftast de dummare personerna som förnekar bättre framsteg...nåja. Men en intressant teori, jag ser fram emot att höra fler resultat om några år.
ReplyDeleteI don't know what I think about those studies, but I don't think that morality and intelligence are directly proportional. As another example, in this country we have an AWFUL political party who are basically a bunch of racists, and their leader is apparently very intelligent, just morally wrong and hideously misguided.
ReplyDeleteStill, gives me something to think about, though I've never been cheated on (I've only ecver had one boyfriend and we're together now).
Best wishes
xx
ooops, i wrote something wrong again... i wanted to write cheater, not chater... sorry
ReplyDeleteWell, the two men in my life I know who cheated were my father and my ex-boyfriend, so that pretty much says: Theory Confirmed!!!!
ReplyDelete;')
Love, Lisa <3
Hej Anette!
ReplyDeleteUhm, the issue is interesting, but I find that this theory very limited and shallow. First of all I think we should make clear what "intelligent" (or "smart") really means. There are different kinds of intelligence: you can have very high learning abilities in some fields but lower abilities in other fields; you can have poor practical skills but be very talented as an artist, or an excellent intuition in some areas. So, what does IQ really tell us about a person? It surely measures a part of our skills, but it's far from being a complete tool to determine a person's intelligence. To be smart and intelligent also means to be respectful to others, be able to handle your relationships in a good way, build up something good in your life, be a good example to others. You can have a very high IQ and use your skills to build new weapons or be a criminal. Same way, you can have a low IQ, be bad at maths and languages, and still be a wonderful loving person who makes a difference for the better. So, I'd say that being a cheater has little to do with IQ, and more to do with how you are inside at an emotional level. The reasons why a person (man or woman) cheats are to be seeked on a different level than just IQ, I think. What's your opinion?
Have a nice evening and thanks for discussing things with us! :-)
Love,
Elisa
I read this to my English class this
ReplyDeletemorning, and my teacher totally agreed
with you- she's the one I was telling you
about that loves you so much, hihi.
Anyway, I agree, I dated a boy a couple
years ago, I think we were 15 or something,
and he cheated on me. Not like, had sex
or anything we were only 15, but
you know what I mean. Well, I'm 17 now,
and he liked one of my friends, but
she knows how he treated me, so she flirted
with him but refused to date him.
I'm glad she didn't date him, but I still
don't think it was right for her to flirt
with him either...
Anyway, this cheating 15 year old boy,
if he had a low IQ? That would NOT be a
surprise, seriously.
Did you know there's this app called
Tiger Text or something, that you can have
on your phone that will automatically
delete your text messages after a certain
amount of time that you set it for.
It's made for people who cheat,
but apparently the guy who made it said
he named it Tiger Text before the Tiger Woods
thing...yeah, right. Elin, Tiger's wife,
is Swedish, and when I found that out I was
so excited- and I'm American.
It made me think of you too though.
I really want to move to your country!
I love the culture.
Sorry for my babbling, have a good day!
Hugs and love, Katie T.
my ex gf cheated on me
ReplyDeleteand she isnt smart to :P
after reading your post i tink she looks like a woman but thinks like a stupid guy
i dont know wy they dont break up first and then go to an other...
i also dont accept cheating.
ill just try to forget it :)
Brad
Well, i've had a few problems with my wife Heather before and have known quite a few beautiful women but i've never cheated so clearly i'm a genius. I just never realised!! :)
ReplyDeleteTom
Good morning,
ReplyDeletewell this study isn't meant to feed stereotypes, all it says is that smart men stick to one women if they see a benefit from this. (Mostly recommend for public people)
But the methods and sources of Kanazawa are higly questionable and many think not reliable at all.
Othger theorys from this guy:
-Atheists are more intelligent than religious people
-People from countries with higher income are smarter
-Night workers are smarter than normal workers.
PS here in germany spring is delayed :(
Have a wonderful day
Yotapong
Interesting topic and comments.
ReplyDeleteI also think this study is flawed. Smart men just don't say they're cheating, lol!.
Imo, Tiger's behaviour is lame only in the sense that it was done without his wife's consent.
To his defence, I would say it must be much harder to be faithful when you have scores of beautiful willing women throwing themselves at you, he is an Alpha male after all. I suspect that most men in a situation of power and might like him aren't faithful. For me, just because we live in a culture/religion that doesn't condone polygamy doesn't makes it necessarily bad. It is a an evolutionnary behaviour to perpetuate the race. In the end, it all comes down to your partner's acceptance of it.
By the way, I wonder how the NW guys survive the separation from their partners during long tours. That must be a challenge with adoring female fans backstage...
Hehe, I didn't hear about that these days! But I think they're right. If a man has found a woman and he's fine with her, why cheating? It only takes a few minutes to sit down and think about the value of the couple. I'm sure that less-smart men just act impulsively and with a non-valid excuse.
ReplyDeleteBest wishes ^^
HAHA, It could be correct this theory! The man I had and cheated a lot on me (that I mostly discovered after the break up) doens't have that much 'common sense' if you ask me :)
ReplyDeleteNow I'm defenitely going for a 'smarter man' :D